463  
FXUS02 KWNH 211217  
PREEPD  
 
PRELIMINARY EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
716 AM EST FRI NOV 21 2008  
 
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 25 2008 - 12Z FRI NOV 28 2008  
 
THE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD  
REGARDING THE GENERAL FLOW PATTERN. INCREASING AMPLITUDE IN THE  
STEERING FLOW ACROSS THE PACIFIC LEADS TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A  
WESTERN TROUGH BY LATE NEXT WEEK. OTHERWISE...A POSITIVE ANOMALY  
NEAR 55N 38W FAVORS TROUGHING OVER MUCH OF EASTERN NORTH  
AMERICA...AS WELL AS THE TROUGHING SEEN IN THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC  
THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. DETAIL DIFFERENCES ARE SEEN BETWEEN THE  
VARIOUS MODELS. A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE 00Z ECMWF/00Z GFS  
APPEARED BEST CONSIDERING THE UNCERTAINTY...AS WELL AS THEIR BREAK  
IN CONTINUITY ACROSS THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE CONTINENT. THIS  
SOLUTION KEPT REASONABLE CONTINUITY.  
 
POSSIBLE DEEP CYCLONE MOVING FROM OFFSHORE CALIFORNIA THROUGH THE  
SOUTHWEST INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...  
THE 00Z ECMWF SLOWER WITH THE SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH THE SOUTHWEST  
EARLY NEXT WEEK THAN THE OTHER GUIDANCE...WHILE THE 06Z GFS SPED  
AHEAD OF THE PACK. THE 00Z GFS IS MOST IN LINE WITH THE 00Z  
GEFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEANS. SINCE THE 00Z ECMWF HAS SOME ENSEMBLE  
SUPPORT AMONGST ITS OWN ENSEMBLE MEMBERS...FEEL ITS SOLUTION  
CANNOT BE IGNORED. THUS...A BLEND OF THE 00Z GFS/00Z ECMWF  
APPEARS BEST HERE. OROGRAPHICALLY-FORCED RAIN AND HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOWS ARE EXPECTED TO SPREAD THROUGH SOUTHERN  
CALIFORNIA...THE SOUTHWEST...AND THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AS THIS  
SYSTEM PASSES THROUGH WHICH SHOULD HELP ALLEVIATE DRY CONDITIONS  
ACROSS THE REGION. AS THE SYSTEM PASSES THROUGH THE SOUTHERN  
PLAINS TOWARDS THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...IT SHOULD TAP AMPLE GULF  
MOISTURE WHICH COULD LEAD TO HEAVY RAINS ACROSS THE  
OZARKS/PORTIONS OF THE MID SOUTH MID TO LATE NEXT WEEK.  
 
NORTHEAST MID TO LATE NEXT WEEK...  
THE 00Z ECMWF/ITS ENSEMBLE MEAN ARE MORE NORTH/NORTHWEST WITH A  
DEEP CYCLONE IN THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF NORTH AMERICA MID TO LATE  
NEXT WEEK WHEN COMPARED TO THE LAST COUPLE GFS RUNS AND THE 00Z  
GEFS/NCEP ENSEMBLE MEAN. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT SWITCH FROM WHAT  
WAS SEEN THIS TIME YESTERDAY...SHOWING A BREAK IN CONTINUITY FOR  
BOTH THE ECMWF AND GFS...LOWERING CERTAINTY IN EITHER OF THEIR  
DETERMINISTIC RUNS. WITH THE GFS/ECMWF SWITCHING PLACES IN  
REGARDS TO THE EASTERN CYCLONE TRACK AND THE ENSEMBLE MEAN  
SOLUTIONS IN TWO CAMPS...A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE TWO APPEARS TO  
BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR THE TIME BEING. THIS SHOULD KEEP  
NEW ENGLAND AND THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES SNOWY FROM TUESDAY ONWARD.  
 
ROTH  

 
 
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